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jema
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 5:46 pm Post subject: Rice cooking
Was just wondering if anyone does what I do when I cook rice? I almost always when boiling rice cook about double the needed quantity, then eat the left over rice in some fashion the next day. So for example I cooked a vindaloo and spinach yesterday, and all the left overs made a quie wonderful Biriani today. I find apart from anything else that rice cooks better with a larger quantity.

Paddington Bear

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 5:54 pm Post subject:
We always seem to have some leftover for the chickens!

dougal

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 6:54 pm Post subject:

Something I didn't know until recently is that cooked rice must not be kept at room temperature. It needs to be cooled quickly and go in the fridge within an hour and a half of cooking.

Seems there is a nasty bug (Bacillus cereus) that breeds specifically on cooked rice and whose toxins are *not* rendered harmless by subsequent cooking...
See, for example, -
https://www.bexley.gov.uk/service/publicprotection/food5.html

Last edited by dougal on Sun Apr 03, 05 7:00 pm; edited 1 time in total

jema
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 6:56 pm Post subject:

dougal wrote:

Something I didn't know until recently is that cooked rice must not be kept at room temperature. It needs to go in the fridge within an hour and a half of cooking.

Seems there is a nasty bug that breeds on cooked rice and is *not* rendered harmless by subsequent cooking...
See, for example, -
https://www.bexley.gov.uk/service/publicprotection/food5.html

I'll take a look but I have never bothered putting rice in the fridge, and no notable ill effects.

Bernie66

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 7:04 pm Post subject:
from my days in sainsburys i can confirm that rice (once cooked) if not kept refrigerated is one of the most dangerous foodstuffs i.e. food poisening etc. it does rank on the same dizzy heights as seafood!!!!!!!!!

Bugs

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 8:21 pm Post subject:
I'd heard of the rice poisoning thing but didn't know exactly what it was or how to prevent it, so cheers for the link and the advice, Dougal and Bernie. I do want to cook double, partly as there are only two of us, partly as I really like rice salad but have not been able to bring myself to make it because I thought I'd kill myself - no such luck there now!

jema
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 8:23 pm Post subject:
I will certainly be taking more care in future, no point in just casually ignoring food warnings, just because you have never been hit. But I still wonder about the actual probabilities?

Jonnyboy

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 8:25 pm Post subject:
I was about to post a warning and saw the plethora of replies. it can be quite serious even if the odds are low. But what about cooking perfect rice? My risotto's are fab but Basmati etc. is always a bit of a let down. Last edited by Jonnyboy on Sun Apr 03, 05 8:32 pm; edited 1 time in total

cab

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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 8:27 pm Post subject:
Slim but credible. You'll most often be fine but once in a while it will happen. Treat it like what it is, a perishable food with a high water content, refrigerate it appropriately.

jema
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Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 8:29 pm Post subject:
It was covered in another thread, but the trick is bring to the boil in a heavy heat retentive saucepan with the lid on. Then almost immediately turn the heat out, and just leave things be. 20 minutes later you will have perfect cooked and relaxed rice, 30 minutes later you will still have perfect cooked and relaxed rice. Rice benefits from not being stirred, looked at or otherwise messed with.

moggins

Joined: 24 Feb 2005
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Location: Gloucester

Posted: Sun Apr 03, 05 8:49 pm Post subject:
It freezes really well though, I often have some left over and I put it into little containers for Ceri to have with her tea.

tahir

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Location: Essex

Posted: Mon Apr 04, 05 9:35 am Post subject:
JB I put a recipe for pilau on the recipe resource a while back, it's usually a dead cert.

cab

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Posted: Mon Apr 04, 05 9:41 am Post subject:
We use a rice cooker, left here in the UK by a former Japanese housemate of Ellie. It's a really, really simple and useful gadget to have. Put the rice and water in, push the button down, and wait for hot, cooked rice.

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