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chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
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Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 11 10:19 pm Post subject:
Yeah, that was my slightly unflattering assessment, too .

Bebo

Joined: 21 May 2007
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Location: East Sussex

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 11 10:44 pm Post subject:
I seem to recall having a fairly extensive discussion with you on this a few months ago? Go on your own. Afternoon session with tea anc cake and a free booklet - 50 or 60 quid. Get together a starter kit - flatpack house for 3 or four birds, feeder, drinker, food and two pullets for a reasonable price available for those on the course.

alice

Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 2820

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 11 11:06 pm Post subject:

I don't think it's always a case of more money than sense with the eglu customer.
It appears to be really well marketed and presented and the whole set-up looks pretty foolproof.
And accessable.
And it doesn't look out of place in a suburban garden and is easy on the neighbours eye.
I would have stumped up if it had been around when I lived in my suburban semi purely because I wouldn't have had the first idea of where to start otherwise.
I'd have paid over the odds for the hand-holding. That's what you should cash in on.

alice

Joined: 18 Feb 2006
Posts: 2820

Posted: Fri Jan 21, 11 11:10 pm Post subject:
Francine Raymond. What does she charge? She does that whole Chickens in your Garden thing.

alison
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Joined: 29 Oct 2004
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Location: North Devon

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 11 1:34 pm Post subject:

Bebo wrote:

Go on your own. Afternoon session with tea anc cake and a free booklet - 50 or 60 quid. Get together a starter kit - flatpack house for 3 or four birds, feeder, drinker, food and two pullets for a reasonable price available for those on the course.

Agree, but would add why not do both.

Do an eglu course, and then your own one. You can still show the eglu at your own course

Lorrainelovesplants

Joined: 13 Oct 2006
Posts: 6521
Location: Dordogne

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 11 4:50 pm Post subject:
Think there is a definate market for courses - I do them and they are always popular, but Im careful with my pricing. If you want we can discuss setting one up and getting your customers some funding? This always makes it more attractive. Your no competition to me - too far away.... Let me know.

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 35935
Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 11 5:48 pm Post subject:

Bebo wrote:

I seem to recall having a fairly extensive discussion with you on this a few months ago?

Go on your own. Afternoon session with tea anc cake and a free booklet - 50 or 60 quid. Get together a starter kit - flatpack house for 3 or four birds, feeder, drinker, food and two pullets for a reasonable price available for those on the course.

The Omlet thing has kick-started my brain again from being bogged down in existing stuff. I will get something together so you can pull it apart when I see you!

Thanks for your input everyone - I feel very reassured!

kirstyfern

Joined: 03 Jan 2010
Posts: 1574
Location: Great Dunmow, Essex

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 11 7:46 pm Post subject:

sean wrote:

Hard to judge I think. The advantage of the Omlet/Eglu route is that you've preselected for customers with more money than sense.

What do kirstyfern and lorrainelovesplants charge?

I charge £10 for a 2 hour course, including handling session.
I don't do any food or drink.
I could easily make it a whole day with lunch and spend the morning on theory and the afternoon showing people all the different birds, housing, etc, people are charging £45-£50 for this.
TBH I find 2 hours PLENTY, they get a booklet to go home with to read as well, more than this isn't absorbed.*
Most Eglu people charge £15 - £20 and give you tea and biscuits, one local lady learnt from me and now does almost exactly my talk and charges £15, LOL! Omlet take a commission on bookings - 10% ? Plus give you a commission on any Eglus sold - and since most people going have booked through Omlet there is a nice profit to be made!

*edited to add - you will get ENDLESS emails / calls for advice FOREVER once they have been to a session - even if they go on to buy the birds cheaper at auction / garden centre

Last edited by kirstyfern on Sat Jan 22, 11 7:51 pm; edited 1 time in total

kirstyfern

Joined: 03 Jan 2010
Posts: 1574
Location: Great Dunmow, Essex

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 11 7:49 pm Post subject:

Bebo wrote:

Where in the country are you, people sniff at the £10 I charge!!!

Have a look on my site to see what I put in my starter kits, should give you an idea, I tend to do housing to order only as it is expensive and bulky to keep in stock.

DON'T DO 2 PULLETS - hens are communal animals, you need 3 or more, please!

T.G

Joined: 13 Sep 2009
Posts: 7280
Location: Somewhere you're not

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 11 8:08 pm Post subject:

kirstyfern wrote:

DON'T DO 2 PULLETS - hens are communal animals, you need 3 or more, please!

Yes, I always try to keep at least 3 in the deep freeze for that very reason

chez

Joined: 13 Aug 2006
Posts: 35935
Location: The Hive of the Uberbee, Quantock Hills, Somerset

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 11 8:10 pm Post subject:
I don't think £15 is enough. But I think £60 might be too much. I dunno.

Bebo

Joined: 21 May 2007
Posts: 12590
Location: East Sussex

Posted: Sat Jan 22, 11 8:32 pm Post subject:

kirstyfern wrote:

Where in the country are you, people sniff at the £10 I charge!!!

Sussex, just like is says under my name. Suppose it depends on which bit of Essex they are coming from to your course. Thurrock is chav central after all.

BadgerFace

Joined: 25 Mar 2009
Posts: 915
Location: Sussex

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 11 9:17 am Post subject:
£75 for day course at my 'local' farm shop. https://www.middlefarm.com/02_whats_on/monthly_poultrycourse.htm

Vanessa

Joined: 08 May 2006
Posts: 8324

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 11 4:10 pm Post subject:

I did a day's intro to sheep-keeping (no wrangling involved), mostly theory-based and quite "dry" ... was £75 including lunch IIRC ... it WAS about 6 years ago now.

Don't even THINK about doing this for less than £10 an hour. You'll need some level of public liability insurance (in case some eejit falls and breaks a leg or something

), so need to cover that cost (not that it's terribly expensive, just needs to be factored-in) as well as your time. If you're giving them a hand-out, remember printing costs, too.

Work out your costs assuming you've got "groups of one"

then 3 or 4 will give you a nice profit.

I know someone who could make you Gypsy caravan-style chicken houses for a LOT less than those we've all seen online

Brownbear

Joined: 28 May 2007
Posts: 14929
Location: South West

Posted: Sun Jan 23, 11 4:27 pm Post subject:
I'd suggest a combined course, for couples. One can do the chicken keeping with you, the other can build a coop with your OH. If you have all the bits cut to size beforehand it wouldn't take a huge amount of time. Those Eglu things are a bit of a ripoff, it seems to me.

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