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1000seeds

Joined: 21 Aug 2011
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Location: Garden of England

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 17 6:15 pm Post subject:

tahir wrote:

Better than Jammie dodgers? Not possible

there are so many foods i like, vegan food doesn't necessarily mean healthy in that respect. Junk food can be vegan.

yummy!

Nick

Joined: 02 Nov 2004
Posts: 34535
Location: Hereford

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 17 6:48 pm Post subject:

1000seeds wrote:

They are, it states planned to add milk. The Vegan Society are upset

"A Burton Biscuits spokesperson said: â€˜For the new reformulated recipe of Jammie Dodgers we have communicated that there is now an additional allergen of milk within the product. This is due to the addition of whey in the recipe, which gives a more rounded flavour"

They changed the recipe 18 months ago.

NorthernMonkeyGirl

Joined: 10 Apr 2011
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Location: Peeping over your shoulder

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 17 6:49 pm Post subject:
I'm not sure segregating veggie stuff is useful? Recipes are recipes. Food is food. If it not clear on the title, check the ingredients...

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 17 10:19 pm Post subject:
I don't care very much, but I don't think a separate vegan section has any merit. If you do go that way, do you want to save time and trouble and ban me from it straight away?

jema
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Joined: 28 Oct 2004
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Location: escaped from Swindon

Posted: Mon Aug 14, 17 11:26 pm Post subject:
I'm not veggie or vegan, but recognize that whatever I think of those views, a lot of people see it as a core part of "sustainable and ethical" so I'm strongly in favour of giving that strand of thinking its own space.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 17 12:09 am Post subject:

jema wrote:

I'm not veggie or vegan, but recognize that whatever I think of those views, a lot of people see it as a core part of "sustainable and ethical"...

Well they are wrong.
It may contribute, but it is a long way from being core...

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15936

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 17 5:52 am Post subject:
What is wrong with a thread within Recipes? We have a long one in the Grow your own section so no reason why it can't go the same way.

jema
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Location: escaped from Swindon

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 17 6:51 am Post subject:
Because whether you agree with it or not, vegan/veggie etc is not about recipes, it is a considered viewpoint.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
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Location: yes

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 17 3:08 pm Post subject:
i have no strong feelings either way regarding a separate vegan/veggie thread but fail to see why any of the relevant aspects do not fit into existing topic categories.

1000seeds

Joined: 21 Aug 2011
Posts: 76
Location: Garden of England

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 17 5:46 pm Post subject:

Hi all, and thanks for the correction about jammie dodgers nick.

My 'title' as such said "food related". I definitely want to keep away from the politiical and ethical side of it - there are many other avenues on this forum to discuss it. This would merely be food you can eat, as a vegetarian or vegan. There may be the odd comment, is lettuce vegan or vegetarian; that's fine!

I think everyone knows what is meant, someone mentioned cheese, for example. I think a section on these, or even sub topics within the main one is worthwhile. Especially for someone like me just beginning. Not just the vegan processed foods i mentioned we are already unknowingly in many cases, eating; but making from scratch, using alternatives. It doesn't detract from meat or dairy eaters. It's an addition. Stand alone or sub topic.

jema
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Posted: Tue Aug 15, 17 6:09 pm Post subject:

Downsizer is all about tolerance and so whilst I would never want a ban on discussing the ethics, I think the mods would have to be very strict about the militant "meat is murder" brigade.
I have good friends who probably feel that way, but they don't feel the need to preach it. The net has the effect on a lot of people of letting them act in ways they never would face to face and a vegan forum would be a hot spot for this.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
Posts: 15425
Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Tue Aug 15, 17 7:20 pm Post subject:
Well if we are going there, can one of the vegans look at the care nurtured by some of the chicken keepers here and explain to me how it is exploitation?

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15936

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 17 6:35 am Post subject:
Honey would be another case, but if we don't want to go into the ethical side of it, I think a thread in recipes still might be better.

sgt.colon

Joined: 27 Jul 2009
Posts: 7380
Location: Just south of north.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 17 10:19 am Post subject:
Genuine question here but why is it considered murder to kill an animal for food yet a living plant is okay to kill and eat? After all it's still a living thing.

Hairyloon

Joined: 20 Nov 2008
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Location: Today I are mostly being in Yorkshire.

Posted: Wed Aug 16, 17 12:24 pm Post subject:

sgt.colon wrote:

Genuine question here but why is it considered murder to kill an animal for food yet a living plant is okay to kill and eat? After all it's still a living thing.

Lack of an easily observable pain response.

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