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Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
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Location: Lampeter

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 20 11:07 am Post subject:

I was shocked to see it posted on the Mining Forum last night as not seen any mention of the consultation anywhere before,when was this taking place.?
Its a headache for you,to store a year`s worth of timber to season takes a lot of space,and not everyone can take the larger loads to season themselves.
The only way I know of to cut down on moisture in timber is to fell in the winter months when the sap is down,as we used to years back when dropping an oak tree for fencing posts.
Well I`m glad the FOD boy`s have obtained an exemption,all the sizes of coal are sold locally in a non smokeless zone.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46169
Location: yes

Posted: Sun Feb 23, 20 1:45 pm Post subject:
413.40ppm

RichardW

Joined: 24 Aug 2006
Posts: 8443
Location: Llyn Peninsular North Wales

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 20 7:34 pm Post subject:
So far this only affects England. Scotland & Wales have not taken this up yet.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46169
Location: yes

Posted: Mon Feb 24, 20 7:59 pm Post subject:
that experiment was interesting at the mo the house is warm 2kg of hardwood lump charcoal in a late victorian parlour grate works very well. maybe it burns a bit hot, i could spray it like forge coals but it works a treat. that avoids the smokeless/wet wood issues big style. i have no idea if it is economically viable or what the by-product load might be but at point of use tis practical.

Mistress Rose

Joined: 21 Jul 2011
Posts: 15936

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 20 8:01 am Post subject:

Ty Gwyn, it came out in 2018. I don't know if it was publicised in the mining press, but we saw it and responded to it. Only house coal is affected; no other grades at the moment, so higher quality coal is allowed. At present this is only going to affect England, as this type of legislation is devolved to Scotland, Wales, and I think Northern Ireland. I can't see it making a lot of difference to the PM2.5 levels quite honestly, and none at all to the other pollutants.

Dpack, go careful with charcoal. It can burn pretty hot, so may damage your grate or fire. A Victorian grate should be all right, but I would also have a CO monitor in the room just in case.

dpack

Joined: 02 Jul 2005
Posts: 46169
Location: yes

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 20 9:58 am Post subject:

i was careful and knocked it down, same as i do when i make charcoal in a woodburner for a flying start for breakfast.

the grate has a refractory hearth and back, the sort with a metal grate might be at risk, i melted one of those with anthracite once i got it going.

i always have CO and smoke alarms, everyone should have, cheap and rather good at saving your life.

it was still going this morning but i did top it up quite late

fluffed up it would be too hot for most grates as you say

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4610
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Tue Feb 25, 20 11:27 am Post subject:

Whether it makes much difference is hard to say,but it shows the authorities have been un capable to monitor their smokeless zones,and with the rise in popularity of multi fuel stoves in urban area`s and people burning housecoal on them for cheapness.

Regarding the boy`s in the FOD with their exemption,because of the imminent close of Aberthaw power station,their outlet for small coal/duff,they are stock piling waiting arrival of a briquette machine which will give them an outlet for the duff and an increase in revenue.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6610
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 20 12:53 am Post subject:
I wouldn't know where to find coal if I wanted to here!

Ty Gwyn

Joined: 22 Sep 2010
Posts: 4610
Location: Lampeter

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 20 1:58 am Post subject:
What area of New England are you Slim? Coal deposits mined years back in Newport,Rhode Island.

Slim

Joined: 05 Mar 2006
Posts: 6610
Location: New England (In the US of A)

Posted: Wed Feb 26, 20 12:49 pm Post subject:
Northern. I can imagine you could mine much of Rhode island before losing Rhode island! (Actually it's all just too populated there to be able to do much of anything outside of suburban living)

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